Wednesday, September 23, 2020

95. Killer in Steel City


It is a Saturday afternoon on January 5, 2002, when Michael Gerboc drove to the floral store he owned with his partner florist, Ed Kirby, to check up Ed and the store. When Michael arrived and called out for Ed, he didn’t get a response but soon he finds Ed. Ed Kirby, age 48, is on the ground surrounded by a pool of blood. The popular florist had been murdered. He had been shot execution-style in the back of the head so he never saw it coming. A 9-millimeter shell was located nearby. His wallet was missing and the cash register was empty. Michael was devastated. Sadly this would not be the only murder this ruthless coward would be responsible for but there was one final shock that would leave many in disbelief. 

Join Jen and Cam as we discuss Killer in Steel City in this episode of Our True Crime Podcast.
As always, our favorite partners in crime help us in all our episodes. Edward October does our creepy listener discretion: @octoberpodVHS Check out his storytelling which will be perfect to listen to as we roll into fall. Nico from @wetalkofdreams does all our original music but, as our editor, also makes us sound good and we all know how difficult that task has to be.

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94. Breaking Point: Mary Ann Holder

Desperate and depressed with the feeling of being overwhelmed is way too real for a lot of us. This is a case when the worst that can happen, does. 

Listen to Cam and Jen discuss the events that lead to Mary Ann Holder's breaking point.

In the United States call 1-800-273-8255

for all other countries,  here is a list of numbers International Suicide Hotlines by Country

This episode was researched and written by E.J. Hammon

E.J. Hammon is a North Carolina writer who is fascinated with serial crime and the psychology behind it. With over a decade of experience writing her blog Confessions of a Bundyphile,

E.J. has a unique perspective into the mind of brutal serial killer, Ted Bundy. Her work on Bundy has been featured on Bizarrepedia, the True Crime Guy web site, and she wrote Season 3 of the hit crime podcast, Criminology.  (Today she adds the “Our True Crime” podcast to her list of credentials.) She is currently working with French author Fabien Richard on a book featuring the voices of Ted Bundy’s victims, survivors, and various law enforcement officials who interacted with him. The book is expected to be published sometime next year under the title “Ted Bundy: Memories of the Beast.” She can currently be found on Facebook and Twitter @RoseDysfunction


Listener discretion by our long time spooky friend, Edward from @octoberpodvhs

Produced and musical score by the extremely talented and one of OTCP's bestie, Nico Vitesse


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93. Living a Lie: Mary and Chester Burge


Today we are going back in time where things were a bit more simple. There was no internet or cable tv and children played outside unsupervised until the street lamps came on. Everyone went to church on Sundays in their Sunday best and the American dream was to get married to your true love, own a house, and have 2.5 kids. The year is 1960 and we are going to pay a visit to Macon, Georgia and while a lot has changed in the past 60 years, some things never change like greed, lust, and murder. Join Jen and Cam as we discuss 'Living a Lie: Mary and Chester Burge' on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast.

Just like always, our listener discretion is provided by the dreamy voiced Edward October from @octoberpodVHS and all our awesome (original) music and editing is provided by Nico from @wetalkofdreams. 


Sunday, September 13, 2020

92 Beyond a Shadow of a Doubt: The Hendricks Family Murders

On November 7, 1983, David Hendricks was out of state on a business trip. Unable to reach his family, Bloomington Illinois Police were sent to do a welfare check.  Inside the house, officers were shocked to find David's  Susan, his three young children brutally murdered in their beds.

Police didn't like the way David handled the news but did that make him a murderer?

Join Jen and Cam as they discuss Beyond a Shadow of a Doubt: The Hendricks Family Murders

Our listener discretion by the infamous Edward of Octoberpodvhs fame.

and Nico Vettese is our Producer.  He wrote the music and in charge of editing and sound.  He's amazing!


Wednesday, August 26, 2020

91. Shattered Memory

 On Feb 21, 2005, a call comes into Miami 911 dispatch from a man who says there is a woman, unconscious in a vacant lot with what looks to be a head wound. She has no clothes on and is clinging to life. Officials were sure the person who did this thought she was dead or near death when he dumped her in the vacant lot. As she gained her strength, the victim was able to write down her name as well as some other details for police but she could not remember exactly what happened to her or who did it. Can police figure out who committed this brutal crime before he can strike again? Join Jen and Cam as we discuss ‘Shattered Memory’ on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast.

Check out the promo at the end of the episode from our friend Edward from @octoberpodVHS.
All the music of our show is from the wildly talented Nico from @wetalkofdreams. We liked him so much, we made him our executive producer too!


Wednesday, July 15, 2020

90. When Hell Came To The 2nd Floor: The UpStairs Lounge Arson

On the night on June 24, 1973 around 8pm, someone set fire to the UpStairs Lounge a gay bar located in the French Quarter of New Orleans. Thirty-two people lost their lives.

Many think the police failed to really investigate the arson. The official cause is still listed as "undetermined origin", but many believe it was a man that was thrown out of the bar earlier that night.

Almost 50 years later is it still one of New Orleans' deadliest fires. Up until the Pulse Nightclub shooting in 2016, it was the deadliest incident in the history of violence against the LGBTQ community. 

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Plaque to commemorate the victims of the fire

A huge THANK YOU to Edward of Octoberpodvhs for the much needed listener discretion


Nico of for the amazing music and sound/editing.


Wednesday, July 8, 2020

89. The Lakewood Monster

Today we are headed to the Pacific Northwest to just a bit south of Seatle Washington to a town by the name of Lakewood. Lakewood is home to McChord Air Force Base with lots of its residents supported by the base, many of the residents know one another or at least knows a friend of a friend. The small community of around 59,000 people love the area and feel safe here that is until July 4, 1996, that would all change as a monster would pay a visit to Lakewood and change it forever.

Promo is from our friends at Forgotten News Podcast @NewsForgotten
Listener discretion is from Edward October  @OctoberpodVHS
Music is by the extremely talented Nico from @wetalkofdreams and hey, he is so awesome, he is also our Executive Producer.