Wednesday, March 15, 2023

203. The Butler Did It: Roy Fontaine

Today’s bizarre tale begins in Chelsea in 1977, where we go to the home of Walter Travers Scott- Elliot and his 60-year-old wife, Dorothy. The couple enjoyed the riches of what they had worked hard for all their lives, and they were pretty well off, upper crust if you will. Walter and Dorothy came from well-established families and lived in a penthouse apartment surrounded by expensive collectibles. The couple managed a small staff at home. In November of 1977, they hired a man named Roy Fontaine. Roy Fontaine presented himself just as you would imagine a butler would. He was refined and well-spoken. He quickly impacted the Scott-Elliots and gained their trust; they even let him sign checks for them and handle their finances. Unfortunately for the Scott-Elliots, there was a lot about their new butler that they did not know and would pay dearly for. Mr. Fontaine was not who he said he was; his real name was Archibald Thomson Hall, but that was only the beginning.


Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘The Butler Did It: Roy Fontaine.’

Edward OctoberpodVHS gave us a brand new shiny listener discretion. He’s the best. Check him out at @octoberpodVHS.

All music is original and amazing courtesy of our executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreams


Hall, Roy Archibald (2002). To Kill and Kill Again: The Chilling True Confessions of a Serial Killer. John Blake. ISBN 978-1-85782-555-8.

Pender, Paul (2012). The Butler Did It: My True and Terrifying Encounters with a Serial Killer. Mainstream Publishing. ISBN 9781780575612.

Nicol, Allan (2011). The Monster Butler. Black & White Publishing. ISBN 978-1-84502-336-2.

Wednesday, March 8, 2023

202. Terror in the Bushland: Carolynne Watson and Julian Buchwald

 Four hours northwest of the central city of Melbourne, located in the southeast region of the continent, lies the vast and protected 1.6 million-acre Alpine National Park. Known as the adventure lovers' dream, the park's mountains make up part of what is known as the Great Dividing Range and offer stunning views of towering ridges, lush wildflower valleys, and majestic waterfalls. Plenty of camping, skiing, and hiking can be enjoyed if one is so inclined.

However excellent the travel brochure for the Australian Alps may sound, locals understand that the landscape can also be a nightmare for people who are not adequately prepared. Victoria is home to at least four venomous snakes and any number of bees, wasps, ticks, and spiders. So when a local farmer driving to town saw two half-naked, sunburnt people stumble on the road before him, he realized they must have been lost in the park and immediately stopped to help them.

The couple, seventeen-year-old Carolynne Watson and twenty-two-year-old Julian Buchwald were taken to Buchan police station. The story that unfolded was the stuff of nightmares, harrowing.

Join Cam and Jen as they discuss 'Terror in the Bushland: Carolynne Watson and Julian Buchwald.'

This episode of OTCP is sponsored by Rothy's. We love their products and know you will, too!
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Thank you to our team that helped make this episode possible:
Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his YouTube Channel
Nico at We Talk of Dreams for editing and theme music.
Lauretta Allen for research and writing.


Wednesday, March 1, 2023

201. The ABC Killer: Moses Sithole

 On September 17, 1995, in Boksburg, South Africa, a Johannesburg Police Reservist had the day off and decided to enjoy the day by hunting rabbits. As the man was walking in the field, the putrid smell hit him. It smelled of death, but it was not just one decomposing body, but several. This was the dumping ground and the killing field of a serial killer. Some bodies were unrecognizable since they had been out there a long time, while others looked freshly killed. Thirty police officers, dogs, and a helicopter were called for a grid search. The police believed they knew who was responsible for these deaths since they knew a killer had been working in the area for nearly a year, but this was new. The killer had been killing women and dumping them but never like this, never all in one spot. He was getting reckless and didn’t care, or he was getting brave and better at his actions. The mass grave held ten bodies. Authorities would discover many more bodies in the places such as Atteridgeville, Boksburg, and Cleveland, earning him the moniker ABC Killer.

Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘The ABC Killer: Moses Sithole.’

Special shoutout to June's Journey for sponsoring this episode!

Listener discretion @octoberpodVHS
Music @wetalkofdreams

As I stated on the podcast, here is a list of victims:(date is the day they disappeared/died, followed by the name, age, and discovery date)

July 6, 1994 - Maria Monene Monama, 18
August 6, 1994 - Amanda Kebofile Thethe, 26
August 19, 1994 - Joyce Thakane Mashabela, 32
September 7, 1994 - Refilwe Amanda Mokale, 24
September 18, 1994 - Rose Rebothile Mogotsi, 22
December 1994 - *Unidentified Victim* (discovered 3 January 1995)
January 1995 - Beauty Nuku Soko, 27
March 3, 1995 - Sara Matlakala Mokono, 25
April 7, 1995 - Nikiwe Diko (discovered 24 June)
April 12, 1995 - Letta Nomthandazo Ndlangamandla, 25
April 20, 1995 - Sibusiso Nomthandazo Ndlangamandla, 2
May 12, 1995 - Esther Moshibudi Mainetja, 29
May 23, 1995 - Granny Dimakatso Ramela, 21 (discovered 18 July)
May 25, 1995 - Elizabeth Granny Mathetsa, 19 (discovered 16 June)
May 30, 1995 - Mildred Ntiya Lepule, 28 (discovered 26 July)
June 13, 1995 - Francina Nomsa Sithebe, 25
June 22, 1995 - Ernestina Mohadi Mosebo, 30
July 14, 1995 - Elsie Khoti Masango, 25 (discovered on 8 August)
July 17, 1995 - Josephine Mantsali Mlangeni, 25
August 8, 1995 - Oscarina Vuyokazi Jakalase, 30 (discovered 23 August)
August 9. 1995 - *Unidentified Victim*
August 15, 1995 - Makoba Tryphina Mogotsi, 26 (discovered 17 September)
August 28, 1995 - *Unidentified Victim*
August 30, 1995 - *Unidentified Victim*
September 4, 1995 - Nelisiwe Nontobeko Zulu, 26 (discovered 17 September)
September 7, 1995 - Amelia Dikamakatso Rapodile, 43 (discovered 17 September) September 12, 1995 - *Unidentified Victim*
September 12, 1995 - Monica Gabisile Vilakazi, 31 (discovered 17 September)
September 17, 1995 - Hazel Nozipho Madikizela, 21 (discovered 17 September)
September 17, 1995 - Tsidi Malekoae Matela, 45
September 17, 1995 - *3 Unidentified Victims*
September 24, 1995 - Agnes Sibongile Mbuli, 20 (discovered 3 October)
October 9, 1995 - *Unidentified Victim*
October 10, 1995 - Beauty Ntombi Ndabeni (discovered 11 October)
October 14, 1995 - *Unidentified Victim*
November 6, 1995 - *Unidentified Victim*


Saturday, February 25, 2023

200. For Want Of A Child: The Murder of Jossie Merrifield

Just across the Mississippi River from St. Louis, Missouri, lies Collinsville, Illinois.
In this town, the Merrifields raised their blended family of thirteen children.

In August 1999, the Merrifields looked forward to adding two new grandchildren to their ever-growing family. Their daughter, 18-year-old, Jossie, was due any day with her second child, and their daughter Sandra May, who was four years older than Jossie, was due just a short while later with the baby she had long been trying for. The Merrifield family was large, consisting of nine girls and four boys, with plenty of little ones running around to keep things interesting. But before August was over, tragedy would strike the family.

Join Cam and Jen as we discuss 'For The Want Of A Child: The Murder of Jossie Merrifield.

Thanks to the following folks for making this possible!
Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his YouTube Channel
Nico at We Talk of Dreams for editing and theme music.
Lauretta Allen for research and writing.

And a huge thank you to Andy from Stabby Hamlet for all the stickers, pens, and magnets. Make sure you check out his store for great underground metal music artists. You will find albums, graphic novels, and fun characters that are only available to them.


Wednesday, February 15, 2023

199. What Happened to Linda Sherman?

 On June 28, 1990, two TWA flight attendants decided to grab a bite to eat near the St Louis Lambert airport. They decide to go to a local Mexican fave, Casa Gallardo, on St Charles Rock Road. The pair were seated at a table next to the window. As the pair were talking and trying to decide between the chimichanga or the steak soft tacos, but definitely a must is the grande margarita or, even better, a pitcher of margs. Sitting at their table, one woman noticed something in the bushes across the parking lot. It was hard to make out, and even when they questioned if what they thought they saw was truly what it was. One of the flight attendants called over the manager to point it out. The manager shut the blinds to all the windows facing that direction. It was nearly 1 pm when the manager called the Bridgeton police. After the police arrived, the crime scene investigators followed. The flashbulbs were popping, and crime scene tape went up. It was as if someone had purposely placed it there to stare at the patrons of the restaurant. The dirty skull looked fake, but it was very real. 

Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘What Happened to Linda Sherman?’

Listener discretion is by the talented @octoberpodVHS
All music is by our executive producer @wetalkofdreams


Wednesday, February 8, 2023

Forever Valentine: Patricia Mann & Jesse McBane

 Jesse was an All-American young man who was voted Most Likely to Succeed. Patricia was an All-American young woman on track to become a nurse. When the two met, sparks flew. Even though they were usually separated by distance, they knew they would be together forever.

On February 12, 1971, Jesse unexpectedly showed up at Watt's Nursing School in Durham, North Carolina, where Patricia attended, to take her to the Valentine's Dance. The two had a fantastic night at the dance, then left at 11:30 to go to Lover's Lane.

When the two failed to return home, friends and family knew something was wrong and began searching for the two lovebirds.

Then on February 25, a land surveyor found what he thought was a mannequin leg covered with leaves deep in the woods, only four miles from Jesse and Patricia's last known whereabouts. Upon closer look, he saw the bodies of Jesse McBane and Patricia Mann. They had been tied to an oak tree and covered by leaves and debris. Their hands were tied behind their backs, and a rope was around their necks.

This case has remained unsolved for fifty-two years and needs closure. Join Cam and Jen as they go over the case along with the three main suspects. Maybe you will be the one that can help the police solve the case.

If you have any information, no matter how small, about the abduction, torture, and murder of Jesse McBane and Patricia Mann, please contact the Orange County Sheriff's department at 919-644-3050 or visit the Orange County Sheriff's Office's website at

Make sure to check out the long-form podcast The Long Dance with investigating reporter Drew Adamek and writer/filmmaker Eryk Pruitt. It is well done and chock full of information and interviews with many people involved. Jen loved it!

Thank you to our team that helped make this episode possible:
Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his YouTube Channel
Nico at We Talk of Dreams for editing and theme music.
Lauretta Allen for research and writing.

Sources: found: of tree where bodies were found: an amazing deep dive:,+North+Carolina+27312/Sanford,+NC/@35.6045825,-79.4350582,10z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x89acb97f2695f989:0x7d512c2db0470c33!2m2!1d-79.1772371!2d35.7201463!1m5!1m1!1s0x89aca38c6e5a1cc9:0x33e094f5b0279618!2m2!1d-79.1802994!2d35.4798757,+Croasdaile+Drive,+Durham,+NC/Sanford,+NC/@35.753211,-79.6180582,9z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x89ace14343601747:0x1d1dab53fe316a44!2m2!1d-78.9412932!2d36.0277261!1m5!1m1!1s0x89aca38c6e5a1cc9:0x33e094f5b0279618!2m2!1d-79.1802994!2d35.4798757,+Durham,+NC+27705/Howe+St,+Durham,+NC+27705/@36.0355654,-78.986795,14z/am=t/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x89ace143d55e6e9f:0xfaed2233d9e052d0!2m2!1d-78.945073!2d36.0287718!1m5!1m1!1s0x89ace0e8553588cf:0xd7428fae04db057a!2m2!1d-78.9881625!2d36.0396603,_North_Carolina,_North_Carolina

Wednesday, February 1, 2023

197. America's Youngest Serial Killer: Craig Price

It is July 27, 1987, and 27-year-old single mother Rebecca Spencer is sound asleep on her couch. She wakes to a stranger above her. The man has a knife and uses all his strength to bring the knife down and stab Becky violently repeatedly. The community was in shock but the police were sure they would solve the case fast. They were wrong and the case went cold for two years. The killer would strike again on September 4, 1989, when a mother and her two children were attacked in the middle of the night. Police were shocked by the heinousness of the crime but the bigger shock was soon to come when investigators found the killer.


Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘America’s Youngest Serial Killer: Craig Price.’

Promo is by our good friends Mike Garson from Brew Crime and Paige Elmore from Reverie True Cime. Mike and Paige launched a new podcast called BrewVerie. Take a listen and check them out.
Listener discretion is by our buddy @octoberpodVHS

Music is by Nico @wetalkofdreams –he is also our executive producer


Tuesday, January 24, 2023

Missing in Florida: Michelle Parker & Tracy Ocasio

Another listener requested episode. Thank you, Chris Johnson!

Cam and Jen discuss two unsolved cases involving missing women in the Orlando area in Florida.

First, we discuss Michelle Parker. Michelle disappeared in 2011, just hours after millions of viewers tuned in to see her and her ex-fiance, Dale Smith, on The People's Court. She was last seen dropping off her twins at Smith's apartment. There is a $200,000 reward for any tips leading to an arrest or where she is located.

Then we discuss the disappearance of Tracy Ocasio in 2009. She was last seen leaving a bar called The Florida Tap Room in Ocoee with a man named James Hataway. Tracy's car was found 150 yards away from Hataway's home, but she has never been found.

James Hataway has since been sentenced to life in prison for the attempted murder of another woman who had given him a ride home.

If you have any information about these two women, please call Crimelines at 1-800-423-8477.

This episode of OTCP is sponsored by Rothy's. We love their products and know you will, too!
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This week's promo is from our friend Edward of OctoberpodVHS. His new project drops in February.

Thanks to the following folks for making this possible!
Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his YouTube Channel
Nico at We Talk of Dreams for editing and theme music.
Lauretta Allen for research and writing.


Friday, January 20, 2023

195. Motiveless Murder: Haines Family Massacre

 Thomas Haines was a 50-year-old industrial supplies local sales manager, while his 47-year-old wife Lisa was a preschool teacher at Lancaster Brethren Preschool. The couple had a 20-year-old daughter named Maggie who had just completed her sophomore year at Bucknell University where she was studying biology and a 16-year-old son named Kevin who was a sophomore at Manheim Township High School. The family was a loving one, with the parents willing to help their children in any way they could. The family of four was enjoying the start of summer break but little did they know, a killer was lurking nearby who had an evil plan he was about to unfold.

Join Cam and Jen as we discuss ‘Motiveless Murder: Haines Family Massacre’ on this episode of ‘Our True Crime Podcast.’

Listener discretion by @octoberpodVHS
Music/EP by @wetalkofdreams

Sources: Book: Kreider, Tim. Refuse to Drown.

Tuesday, January 10, 2023

Roch Theriault and the Ant Hill Kids Cult


In 1984, the beautiful, tranquil area of Burnt River in Ontario, Canada, attracted the attention of the free-spirited, organic-food-growing faith community called the Ant Hill Kids. Along an isolated road on August 16th, 1989, it was here that a member of that faith community hitch-hiked her way to a hospital, protecting the stump that used to be her right arm.

A former nurse herself, Gabrielle Lavallee knew only too well the horrors that could befall an untreated amputation. But any horror that could result from rampant infection was mild compared to the horror she’d already endured.

Gabrielle, determined to leave the "utopian" community behind, eventually spilled her story to the police. Gabrielle had existed in conditions far from utopian. She had been living in an absolute sadistic hellscape, controlled and manipulated by the Ant Hill Kids leader, a Quebec man named Roch Theriault.

Join Jen and Cam as we discuss a case that is so heinous and bizarre that if it were a work of fiction, the author would be taken to task for making up such an unbelievable story.

If you or any loved ones need help with either leaving a cult or are in need of therapy to recover from your experiences, you can visit the International Cultic Studies Association’s website at

Promo by Tales From the Darkside. Be sure to check out Season 5

Thank you to
Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his YouTube Channel
Nico at We Talk of Dreams for editing and theme.
Lauretta Allen for research and writing