Wednesday, August 28, 2019

#54 Jack the Stripper

 When someone says Whitechapel, London and 1880’s, most people know they are referring to none other than Jack the Ripper. Jack was one of the first serial killers to terrorize with no reason and to this day remains unsolved--although many think they know who it is, it has yet to be proven. His killings have been covered with countless books and movies and have lead to more than a few copycat killings but perhaps the biggest one is one you may have never heard about. This brutal murderer killed more victims than his famous namesake. He was known as Jack the Stripper and the murders would be known as the Hammersmith Nude Murders. 

Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss “Jack the Stripper.”


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Sunday, August 18, 2019

#53 The Wife In The Bedroom With The Picture Wire: Ruth Brown Snyder

Ruth Brown Snyder
Judd Gray
Albert Snyder

The Roaring 20's brought on a lot of changes in the United States.
 Most people saw a 22% growth in their paychecks.
 It was illegal to consume or make alcohol in the United States due to Prohibition.

 And with the passing of the 19th Amendment women were given the right to vote. 

This new era brought on a new type of woman called a  "flapper".
 She danced, drank, smoked and voted. 
She cut her hair, she tanned her skin, she wore make-up, and partied until dawn.
She was sexually liberated.  People started thinking that women 
were sexual beings with human impulses and desires, 
and restraining these impulses was self-destructive.

Ruth Brown Snyder let go of all her inhibitions but still managed to self destruct.

Join Jen and Cam as they discuss one of the most famous execution of a murderess
 you most likely have never heard of.

OTCP is proud to announce our new Executive Producer, the magnificent Dick Vane!
Promo from our friends
Wine & Crime 

Listener Discretion by the one and only Edward October of OctoberpodVHS
Music/editing and sound by the incredibly gifted Nico of  We Talk of Dreams

Judd Gray, trial lawyer, Ruth Brown Snyder

The murder weapons: Picture wire and sash weight
Tom Howard showing ankle camera
Ankle camera designed by Tom Howard
Ruth Brown Snyder in the process of being electrocuted.  by Tom Howard

Wednesday, August 14, 2019

#52 No Witness No Crime

To look at Skidmore, Missouri, you would see what many Americans would see. Kids playing in the front yards, men in their older pickups waving at everyone they pass and folks chatting with with each other as they gather in town.
With a population of only 440 people in 1981, everyone in this Missouri town knew each other many had grown up together. They protected each other and, most importantly, they knew when to keep a secret. The town people knew who the good people were, they knew who was a bit of trouble and they also knew that the devil was alive and well and living right there with them in Skidmore, Missouri.

Listener Discretion by the amazing Edward Octoberpod of OctoberpodVHS
Music, editing and sound by the talented Nico at We Talk of Dreams

In Broad Daylight by Harry L Maclean ISBN-10: 1482639874
"The Strange Killing of Ken Rex McElroy". BuzzFeed Unsolved. Season 3.

"Bully" by Phoebe Judge". Criminal Podcast. 2017-05-05

Also check out the Documentary “No One Saw A Thing” on Sundance

#51 Bad Man in Aviators

Newton Kansas sits in America’s heartland with fields of wheat and cornfields as far as the eye can see. The small town of 19,000 is big on family, God, and rarely, does anyone lock their front doors. They all know each other as many have grown up and grown old having never left their small hometown. It is a trusting community with a long line of families raising families but that trust was shattered in the spring of 1994 when a stranger knocked on Rhonda Krehbiel's front door.
Join Jen and Cam as we discuss "The Bad Man in Aviators" on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast.

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Tuesday, July 16, 2019

#50 Harry Moore and the Groveland Four

Harry and Harriette Moore and daughters
Samuel Shephard, Walter Irvins, Earnest Thomas, Charles Greenlee

On December 25, 1951, was a double celebration for Harry & Harriette Moore of Mims, Florida. Not only was it Christmas, but the couple were celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary. In those 25 years, the Moore’s had raised 2 daughters, taught countless children in segregated schools within Brevard County Florida, and founded the Brevard County chapter of the NAACP, just to name a few accomplishments.  It had become a tradition for the couple to cut their anniversary cake just as they had on their wedding day, arm in arm, hand in had.  As they sliced their cake that evening, they had no idea they would become the first assassinations of the civil rights movement.
Join Jen and Cam on this very special 1st anniversary Our True Crime Podcast episode as we discuss Harry Moore and the Groveland Four.

We have a brand new listener discretion from our buddy Edward Octoberpod @octoberpodVHS

Thurgood Marshall

Norma and Willie Padgett

Sheriff Willis McCall
We have a brand new listener discretion from our buddy Edward Octoberpod @octoberpodVHS

A giant thank you to all our listeners, especially those that helped commemorate this milestone with us and gave us a 'thank you'. It has been a heck of a year and we love you all for listening and letting us do what we love. Here is to many, many more. -Jen and Cam


The Zinn Education Project 
History Channel
 Orlando Sentinel

#49 The Chameleon Killer

Beverly McGowan
St. Lucie County Florida is a community located about 90 miles north of Miami and it is just what you would expect in sunny Florida-hot and humid. The area is a heavy on the wildlife with lots of swampy canals running throughout which empty into the famed Florida Everglades. For a killer, there is no better place to dump a body because if the weather doesn’t help decay the body fast, the critters will get it and within a short amount of time, there will be no evidence that a crime was ever committed. Or, at least, that is what a killer was hoping for but one July evening, fate was not on this killer’s side. A body was left behind and it would lead to years of trying to catch the infamous killer with lots of names. Join Jen and Cam as we discuss 'The Chameleon Killer' on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast
Listener Discretion by Edward October from @octoberpodVHS
All music and editing from Nico @wetalkofdreams

Elaine Parent

Tate, Tim (2002-04-21). "'Chameleon Killer' cheats the Florida police by ending her many-faced life".
America’s Most Wanted
Unsolved Mysteries--
Mastermind Murderer Escapes Capture For Decades While Taunting Police The Whole Time:

Wednesday, June 26, 2019

#48 Missing Mistie Murray

On the morning of Wednesday May 31, 1995, Mistie Nicole Murray, age 16, told her parents she would be home late because she had band practice after school. She put on her green nylon Marching Band with the lettering SDHS Girls Band jacket, with "Mistie" on the sleeve and sat in her dad’s red TransAm with the top down, smiling and telling her dad how she will have her driver’s license soon.  Her father, Steve ruffled her hair, made a bad joke about women drivers as Mistie’s mother climbed in the car and they drove off to school. She attended all her classes and even visited the school nurse for reasons that haven’t been made available to the public.  Mistie called her mother, Anne, at the elementary school where her mom worked. The call was made around 3:00 pm but her mother did not answer the call and Mistie didn’t leave a message. This was not unusual as her mom was often busy especially at the end of the school day. What was unlike any other normal school day, Mistie never made it back home.
Join Jen and Cam as we discuss Missing Mistie Murray on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast.

Age-Progression to 28 (2006

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Mistie's Doe Network Link    

London Free Press 

 Damaged Angels

National Post

Various articles from Windsor Star Ottawa Canada and National Post Toronto Canada via

#47 Brotherly Hate: The Kehoe Boys

Located about 90 miles north of Little Rock Arkansas is a little area called the Illinois Bayou. It has everything that you would think a bayou would have: bogs, marshes and a very prehistoric kind of feel. Locals as well as visitors flock to the area to hit the water and see what kind of goodies they can reel in but sometimes the things that they catch on the other end of the line, is something no one would expect or want. That is exactly what happened, when a couple out for a day of fishing, reeled in a ghastly sight: a body part. Authorities rush to the scene and what they would uncover would only leave more questions and unveil a hidden sect of people who's strong beliefs include anti-government but does it also include murder?
Join Jen and Cam on this edition of OTCP as we discuss Brotherly Love: The Kehoe Boys.
Listener Discretion by the voicely talented Edward October of @octoberpodVHS
All music and editing by the guy who puts up with us way more than any person ever should have to do: Nico @wetalkofdreams
"Killings Illuminate Culture of White Supremacists". The New York Times. 1998-03-29.
"State V. Kehoe".
"Cheyne Kehoe Turns Himself In Brother Still On Run After Shootout With Ohio Troopers". The Spokesman-Review. 1997-06-17
"A&E - American Justice : Raised On Hate".
THE FBI FILES – Season 2 Episode 16 "Deadly Mission"". Discovery Channel

Monday, June 17, 2019

Bermuda, Bikers and Blood Summer Blast #5

Bermuda, is England's oldest surviving colony. With the beautiful brightly colored houses darting the shores, the pink sandy beaches welcome vacationers from all over the world.  So when 16 year old Becky Middleton hears about how gorgeous this dream like paradise destination is, she knows where she is going on her summer vacation. Middleton, and her best friend Jasmine Meens, had decided they were going to spend the summer there after school was out in June 1996. They wouldn’t be alone on the island as Jasmine’s dad was now living there after getting remarried. It was a dream come true for any teen girl but the dream would soon turn into a nightmare for all those they knew and loved young Becky.

Join Jen and Cam on the final OTCP Summer Blast episode entitled Bermuda, Bikers and Blood.
Promo is by @IWBpodcast 

Listener Discretion by the fabu Edward October @octoberpodVHS

All music and editing by our pal across the pond Nico @wetalkofdreams

Evil on the Oceanfront Summer Blast #4

Best friends Lynn Seethaler and Janice Pietropola had graduated together from the Penn Hills High School and with their newly found independence and financial freedom, Janice and Lynn decided they would take a nice little vacation together.  

 The last week of June 1973, the two young, vibrant ladies set off on a road trip to Virginia Beach. The two had rented a small cottage at Farrar’s Tourist Village, which was a small complex of vacation rentals right on the oceanfront.

 A bit after noon on June 30, the two women missed their checkout time. A motel employee went to the cottage to check on them.  Inside they found a bloody scene and both girls were found dead. Decades would pass before the person responsible for this would be discovered but was there even more?
Join Jen and Cam on the OTCP Summer Blast episode entitled Evil on the Oceanfront.

Promo is by @IWBpodcast 

Listener Discretion by the fabu Edward October @octoberpodVHS
All music and editing by our pal across the pond Nico @wetalkofdreams
a young Ernest and his family


Various articles from The Pittsburgh Press,Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, The Danville Registar, The Bee & The News Leader via
The Virginia Pilot on line
City of Virginia Beach

The Campfire Killings Summer Blast #3

It was Sept 13, 1982 when Detective Mike Eastham was summoned to a campsite in Wells Gray Park Provincial in Britt Columbia, Canada. Eastham was not quite sure what he was going to find but had been told there was a fire and they had discovered one body at that point. Once on sight, they located a car that was burned badly but there was no mistaking the bone fragments inside the car and those bones belonged to humans. Not  quite sure if there were one or two bodies inside the vehicle but they weren’t finished. Once the trunk was opened, the shock hit hard as two small skeletons were inside. Who would want this loving family dead? The answer would shock everyone. 

Join Jen and Cam on episode 3 of the OTCP Summer Blast series entitled The Campfire Killings.

Promo by Pretend Radio @Pretendpod

The LaPorte Indiana Strangler Summer Blast #2

On June 3, 1971, 13-year-old DeWayne Bush was reported missing from his home in Union Mills, Indiana. Police just suspected  he was a runaway. Three months pass when a deer hunter came across skeletal remains. It was confirmed to be DeWayne Bush. DeWayne’s death would not be solved for 12 years but, sadly, he would not be the last to be brutally murdered by a man who was able to blend in among the community. 

Join Jen and Cam on episode 2 of the OTCP Summer Blast series entitled The LaPorte Indiana Strangler
Promo by Things That Keep Me Up At Night @ttkmeup

Listener Discretion by the adorably audible Edward Octoberpod @octoberpodVHS
All Music and Editing by the hot (and single-wink-wink) Nico from @wetalkofdreams

Various articles from The South Bend Tribune on
Death certificate on
Clark Country Prosecutor-Indiana Death Row
Find a Case

Stolen in the Night Summer Blast #1

Summer Blast #1: Stolen in the Night
Camping is a family tradition that goes way back. It is a cheap way to bond and see the country and that is just what the Jaeger family wanted to do when they set off to Montana from Michigan.

It was Sunday June 24 and they were spending their last night in Montana’s Headwaters State Park. It was around 4am when 13 year old Heidi Jaegar woke up to some chilly air. There was a hole in the tent-a big hole. Heidi felt around the sleeping bag for her 7 year old sister, Susie, who was sleeping in that spot but it was only a sleeping bag. The family's dream vacation would turn into a very long nightmare. Police would apply a method that was unheard of in the early 1970's to help in the case. 

Join Jen and Cam as we discuss episode 1 in the Summer Blast series entitled Stolen in the Night on today's episode of Our True Crime Podcast.

Promo by the Bad in the Boondocks podcast.

Listener Description by the hauntingly handsome Edward Octoberpod from @OctoberpodVHS

All music and editing by the stunningly stylish Nico from @wetalkofdreams

#41 Where Have You Gone Mr Robinson

Kansas City, MO
It was the summer 1984 and a local business man advertised for a sales representative secretary. 19 year old Paula Godfrey applied for the job and was thrilled to get the position. She was anxious to start her career with the hopes of it giving her the step up she needed. As Paula left the house, her smile was beaming as she waved goodbye to her parents. It would be the last time her parents would see that smile. Sixteen years later a knock upon a Kansas front door would unleash a secret horror story that only Stephen King could create.

#40 My 10 Inch Cowboy

A man and woman are found is dead inside a home.

Another man is found dead in a car parked outside of the house.

The only things missing are a wallet, cell phone and computer tower.

Police find printouts of sexy emails exchanged on an internet dating site.

The digital age brings us a lot of cool stuff, unfortunately it can also lead to murder.

Listener discretion by the Rando Award Nominee Edward Octoberpod of OctoberpodVHS

Music, editing and sound are all expertly done by the very talented Nico of We Talk of Dreams.


Man is Guilty in Triple Murder by Bill Braun  Tulsa World
Toothless murderer loses bid for dentures by Chris Killman
Forensic Files Now
Forensic Files: Fate Date
Killing suspect feared FBI by Larry Levy
Kidwell Guilty of murder 
Kidwell vs Martin
Cyber Corps students help police crack case University of Tulsa

Wednesday, May 29, 2019

#39 The Candyland Scandal

He was rich, he was powerful and now he’s dead. Under the bloody blanket lay a man named Jacques Mossler. Mossler was not just any guy, he was the head of a $33 million banking and loan empire and his death, in this very luxurious apartment building, would soon turn out to be one of the most sensational media stories of the decade. 
Join Jen and Cam on this week's OTCP as we discuss The Candyland Scandal. 

As always our fabulous listener discretion is by the wonderful Edward Octoberpod from @OctoberpodVHS

and the smooth melodies and seamless editing by Nico @wetalkofdreams

#38 Sex, Lies and Duct Tape 3 part episode

Julie Miller was a successful woman.  An executive in a major company in St Louis
After 10 years of spent taking care of her terminally ill parents, Julie was sad and lonely.
She thought the only thing that could make her happy was finding her Ideal Man.
She wished to settle down with a handsome professional man and start a family.
Sometimes wishes are deadly.

Listener discretion by Rando Award Nominee Edward October from the gang at  OctoberpodVHS

And the wonderful man that handles all the editing, sound and the composer of our theme, The awesome Nico Vettse of We Talk of Dreams

Dying to Get Married by Ellen Harris
St Louis Post Dispatch

#37 Appointment with Murder

Many people fear going to the dentist for their checkups. Perhaps it stems from a previous negative experience as your dentist hit a nerve or the gnawing noise of the drill coming near you as you sit in the chair defenseless with your mouth wide open. The man you are about to hear about is a horror movie come to life. By day, a mild mannered dentist. By night,  for a price, he would take out your loved one. Join Jen and Cam as we discuss 'Appointment with Murder' on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast
Promo by @LifeSentencePod
Listener Discretion by the Excellent Edward October @OctoberpodVHS
All music and editing courtesy of Nico @WeTalkofDreams

Sunday, April 28, 2019

#36 Footprint of the Devil: Jeanine Nicarico

Jeanine Nicarico is just like any other 10 year old. She likes to play with her friends, run around outside and go to school. So on February 25, 1983, when she woke up and wasn’t feeling good. She is running a fever and her parents suspect that Janine may have the flu. Even though she is just 10 years old, her parents decide to let her stay home by herself. When a stranger knocks on the door, she answers. Little did she know, the person at the door was the devil.

Promos this week:
Devil We Know Pod

Music and Editing by the amazeballs Nico at @wetalkofdreams   
LD by: the best spooky story teller ever Edward Octoberpod @octoberpodVHS

#35 Buried Alive: The Kidnapping of Barbara Mackle

In 1968, Robert Mackle was one of the richest men in Florida, maybe even the United States.

Because of this, his daughter, Barbara became the target of kidnappers. Two gunman came in and stole Barbara. They then drugged her then buried her alive.

The FBI said it was the most bizarre kidnapping they had ever been involved in.

Cam & Jen thought one of the kidnappers was the most bizarre felons they had ever talked about.
 We are curious as to what you think.

Promos by
Evidence Locker Podcast
Ladies Of Strange Podcast

Listener Discrestion by Rondo Award Nominee Edward October of OctoberpodVHS

Nico of We Talk of Dreams did all the Music, editing and sound
Produced by Steve, he doesn't really know this so don't tell him

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Pensacola Journal
Atlanta Constitution
Tallahassee Democrat
Miami News
Tampa Bay Times
Lindsey Williams-Writer at Large
New York Times
14 News
Atlanta Journal Constitution
Gwinnett Daily Post
Decatur Daily