The Mockingbird Hill Massacre: Ronald Gene Simmons Day 12 The 12 Nightmares Brefore Christmas

In the small town of Cloudcroft, located in a mountainous region of New Mexico, rumors began to surround a seventeen-year-old girl named Sheila Simmons. It was 1981, and most 17-year-old girls were excited about watching music videos on the newly launched 24-hour music channel MTV, reading Teen magazines, dressing in the latest fashion trends, and taking over the landline to chat with each other about their day and other important things. But Sheila's reality was, tragically, much darker. Shy, ashamed, and threatened into silence, she finally admitted her secret to a school counselor after much pressure: she was pregnant. What's more, the father of her unborn child was also the baby's grandfather, 40-year-old Ronald Gene Simmons. When he learned he was being investigated by authorities, Simmons felt betrayed. In a letter discovered almost a decade later, he warned his daughter, quote, "You have destroyed me, and you have destroyed my trust in you…

I will see you in Hell."

Little did anyone know, things would only get worse from that moment on.

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Sources:

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https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-12-30-mn-21766-story.html 

https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/ronald-gene-simmons-3731/ 

https://apnews.com/article/6c5ee3b239d03ca1b0302e14795ed02c 

https://murderpedia.org/male.S/s1/simmons-ronald-gene.htm 

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http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/simmons131.htm

Bad Romance: Charles Starkweather and Caril Fugate Day 11 The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

 The year is 1958, and America is still innocent in terms of evil people. We know they were always around, but with snail mail and no internet, things that made the news are not like they are today. Someone commits a heinous crime in Manchester, England, and in mere seconds, we here in the US hear about it. Today's case, Day 11, takes us back to when Eisenhouse and Nixon led the US and the FBI, led by J. Edgar Hoover, was America’s watchdog. Even though it entered the lexicon in early 1900, the word teenager was coming into the common language. Teens were becoming more independent from their parents thanks to public education. No longer were young children pulled from school to go to work. This led to some rebellion from those teens, who were better to show the cause than James Dean and Elvis. Perhaps it was perfect timing in the US, or maybe it was the shock of how two teenagers could capture the world's attention and go down in infamy. The couple would be memorialized in such movie classics as Terrance Malik’s 1974 Badlands with Martin Sheen and Sissy Spacek as the leads, Tarrantino’s True Romance, David Lynch’s Wild at Hart, Oliver Stone’s Natural Born Killers. Even today, the couple still holds our gaze with movies, tv shows, songs, books, and more. 

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Sources:

http://www.biography.com/articles/Charles-Starkweather-233080

https://scholarworks.umt.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6100

https://books.google.com/books?id=CxYeAAAAIBAJ&pg=PA39&article_id=2740,4258335

https://www.archive.org/details/killerscontractk0000cawt/page/174

https://books.google.com/books?id=348UAAAAIBAJ&q=%22Charles+Starkweather%22&pg=PA21&article_id=5866,2297883#v=onepage

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https://www.wyohistory.org/encyclopedia/killing-spree-transfixed-nation-charles-starkweather-and-caril-fugate-1958

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/killer-couple-strikes-the-heartland

The Grim Sleeper: Lonnie Franklin Jr Day 10 The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

 On April 17, 1974, a seventeen-year-old girl in Stuttgart, Germany, was visiting her boyfriend. After saying her goodbyes, she left for the train station at around 12:30 am. Along the way, a Fiat with three passengers pulled up beside her to ask for directions. These men, who were US Army soldiers, asked the girl for directions and offered her a ride home. The girl thought that the three were trustworthy. Sadly, her instincts were very quickly proved wrong. One of the men sprung a knife on her, and they drove to a remote location to sexually assault her. All three of the men raped her, and one of them took photographs during the attack. Ingrid was brought back to the car and finally dropped off at home. Ingrid, thinking on her feet, pretended that she was interested in the men, coaxing them to give her a phone number so she could get back in touch with them later. One of them fell for it and agreed, giving her his number. This man was 21-year-old Lonnie David Franklin Jr, a US army private cook stationed at the Kelley Barracks in Stuttgart. Ingrid didn’t know she was not the only victim of the three men that night or that this man would go on to become one of the most prolific serial killers of all time in America.

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The photos of the unidentified women suspected to be victims of Franklin are available to view at the following link: https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/grim-sleeper-serial-killer-suspects-secret-photos/9/. Anyone with information about these women is asked to call 1-877-LAPD-24-7.

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http://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/260246/Grim-Sleeper-Investigation-Timeline#vars!date=1985-11-02_13:12:56! 

https://web.archive.org/web/20180617201135/http://www.lapdonline.org/grimsleeper 

https://thecinemaholic.com/who-were-the-grim-sleepers-victims-how-many-people-did-he-kill/ 

Lonnie Franklin: The Grim Sleeper Serial Killer Who Terrorized Los Angeles 

Lonnie Franklin, serial killer dubbed "Grim Sleeper," found dead in San Quentin State Prison - CBS News 

The Infamous Case Of Lonnie Franklin Jr ( JCS Inspired ) 

Grim Sleeper' Serial Killer Lonnie Franklin Once Gang Raped a German Teen

https://www.laweekly.com/grim-sleeper-returns-hes-murdering-angelenos-as-cops-hunt-his-dna/ 

'Everybody knew Lonnie' - Los Angeles Times 

Police collect hundreds of pieces of evidence from Grim Sleeper suspect's home - Los Angeles Times 

‘Grim Sleeper’ Serial Killer: Everything You Need to Know – Rolling Stone

Landlady from Hell: Dorothea Puente Day 9 The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

 It is November 11, 1988, when Detective John Cabrera and his team pay a visit to the once regal but past its prime Victorian home located on F Street in Sacramento, California. The detectives are conducting a wellness check on 51-year-old Alvaro "Bert" Montoya. Bert, a tenant at the home, has an intellectual disability. His social worker had phoned the police, worried that he was missing since she had not heard from him.  They knock on the door and are greeted by a landlady of the home, an older woman. Det. Caberea asked her if they could look around the place, and she agreed and told them to go ahead. “Dig in my yard. I don’t know what’s out there.” She knew exactly what, or shall I say, who was in her yard.

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Sources:

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-03-25/news/mn-500_1_doody

https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-xpm-2011-mar-28-la-me-0328-dorothea-puente-20110328-story.html

https://oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/c8b85fn5/entire_text/

http://www.absolutecrime.com/dorothea-puente-and-the-boarding-house-of-death.html#.XWXz2Ht7nIU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_Women

https://www.netflix.com/watch/81149403

http://www.kcra.com/article/sacramento-serial-killer-s-former-home-renovated-ready-for-visits/6407363

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/city-beat/article33287136.html

"House of Horrors". A Stranger in My Home. Season 1. Episode 1. October 13, 2013. Investigation Discovery

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/in-print-dorothea-puentes-killer-cookbook/Content?oid=897848

The Snapshot Killer: Christopher Wilder Day 8 The 12 Nightmare Before Christmas

On March 5th, 1984, a twenty-three-year-old Orange Bowl Princess named Elizabeth “Beth” Kenyon left the parking lot of the Coral Gables High School where she worked as a special needs teacher. Beth had also been a finalist in the Miss Florida contest in 1982. She thought the pageants were a lot of fun, but her heart was with the kids she taught. She waved goodbye to the security guard on duty, and it is presumed she was headed to the gym. However, she would never make it to the gym, nor would she make it home to her apartment on Ives Dairy Road. The police did list Beth as a missing person but assured the Kenyons their daughter was fine, claiming that young women her age went away for a few days without telling their parents all the time. Beth’s parents knew that their daughter was not that irresponsible. Convinced that something was wrong and unhappy with the apathetic attitude of the police, the Kenyons hired private investigators, a father-son duo named Ken Whittaker Senior and Junior. Ken Senior was an ex-FBI Chief and amazingly thorough. No clue was too small for him. Hiring them would be the most important step in this case.

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Sources:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43410008-the-snapshot-killer 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmBXz0Emm38

https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/beauty-queen-killer-christopher-wilder-florida-playboy

https://www.amazon.com/Christopher-Wilder-Historical-Killers-Murderers-ebook/dp/B01EZ3Z87W/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=christopher+wilder&qid=1638501577&s=books&sr=1-3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiJovpsOP1o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQDW9pr_KzA&t=1287s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHK-G1QsHs

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1301&dat=19870426&id=QHZWAAAAIBAJ&pg=5084,7474822&hl=en

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https://web.archive.org/web/20131212203006/http://www.thefreelibrary.com/A+TEEN%27S+TERRIFYING+DAYS+WITH+A+KILLER+IN+1984,+AN+L.A.-AREA+GIRL...-a0179511757

https://healthpsychologyconsultancy.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/making-of-a-monster-christopher-wilder-the-beauty-queen-killer/

https://www.dailybreeze.com/2021/07/19/south-bay-history-christopher-wilders-savage-crime-rampage-included-a-stop-off-in-the-south-bay/

https://charleyproject.org/case/elizabeth-ann-kenyon

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/1983-slaying-of-young-woman-may-have-been-work-of-serial-killer/article_8f92c889-687e-50fc-84fc-53cb210b162f.html

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/mass-murderer-wilder-commits-suicide#:~:text=Christopher%20Wilder%20dies%20after%20a,state%20troopers%20to%20avoid%20capture.

Blood Lust: The Rainwater Killings Day 7 The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

 25-year-old John Rainwater and 22-year-old Lori Rainwater were a young married couple just starting out. The couple had a 15-month-old daughter at home and  Lori had just got home from the hospital after delivering her son, who was just seven days old. The couple lived in Atascadero, CA and by all accounts were a loving family with lots of friends. John and Lisa were Christians who managed an apartment complex at 8750 El Camino Real located in Atascadero, a city with a population today of 29,000 and located in San Luis Obispo County.  They were working hard to get their lives going and were excited about the future.  The couple had a lifetime to look forward to, but one man changed all that on a chilly February morning in 1987.

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Sources:

https://nonreligiously.rssing.com/chan-1817104/article4256.html

https://scocal.stanford.edu/opinion/people-v-webb-31113

https://calcoastnews.com/2016/12/death-row-inmate-killed-atascadero-couple-dies/

https://pasoroblesdailynews.com/man-convicted-raping-murdering-atascadero-couple-dies-prison/65453/

https://www.newtimesslo.com/sanluisobispo/justice-for-all-the-death-of-dennis-webb-and-the-future-of-californias-death-penalty/Content?oid=2973922

https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/crime/article120902828.html

https://murderpedia.org/male.W/w/webb-dennis-duane.htm

A Christmas Massacre: The Carnation Murders-Day 6-The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

 The 6Tth day takes us to the small town of Carnation, Washington. On December 24, 2007, 60-year-old Wayne Anderson, a retired engineer from Boeing, and his wife of 31 years, 61-year-old wife, Judy, were anxiously awaiting the arrival of their family to start celebrating the holiday. It was tradition for the Anderson family to get together on Christmas Eve. It was Wayne’s favorite holiday, and they celebrated by opening presents, eating, and enjoying everyone’s company. The couple was expecting their 29-year-old daughter Michele and her partner, Joe, who lived in a trailer on Anderson’s 11 acres. Their 32-year-old son Scott and his wife, Erica, would bring their two small children. In addition, 41-year-old Mary and her son were also planning on coming.  At around 5 pm, the king county sheriff’s office receives a 911 call from Anderson’s home. When the dispatcher picked up the phone, they heard a woman screaming. The call only lasts 10 seconds before the line goes dead. The dispatcher tried to call back twice, but the calls went to voice mail. What happened in the home was vicious and savage, but the biggest shock was who committed this heinous crime. 

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Sources:

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/michele-anderson-sentenced-to-life-for-killing-6-relatives/

https://www.q13fox.com/news/you-are-a-bully-and-coward-michele-anderson-told-before-given-6-life-sentences-for-killing-family

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVydO82yBNU

https://www.seattlepi.com/local/crime/article/At-long-last-Carnation-woman-who-wiped-out-6866197.php

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TXQIcYckus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVDiTNw2TwY

https://www.nbc.com/homicide-for-the-holidays/video/a-christmas-massacre/3435780

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/i-wanted-my-mum-brother-and-dad-to-die/news-story/ddc51732d3e6f5deb9d7cfa4abf1c813

https://torontosun.com/news/world/crime-hunter-yuletide-massacre

https://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/tag/michele-anderson/

https://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2007/12/26/6-bodies-found-on-carnation-wa-property-122507-police-have-ruled-out-murder-suicide-no-suspects-yet/

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/timeline-of-carnation-killings-anderson-murder-trial/

https://www.newspapers.com/image/577073483/?terms=judy%20wayne%20anderson&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/581643398/?terms=judy%20wayne%20anderson&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/815863858/?terms=judy%20wayne%20anderson&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/822184042/?terms=judy%20wayne%20anderson&match=1

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Pb0JOk7-A

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https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/michele-anderson-convicted-of-killing-6-family-members-to-be-sentenced/233177814/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Carnation_murders

https://murderpedia.org/female.A/a/anderson-michele.htm

Valley of Death: Lewis Clark Valley Murders Day 5 The 12 Nightmares of Christmas

 On day 5, we are headed to Lewistown, Idaho. It is also home to Lewis and Clark State College, where 21-year-old Kristina Nelson was a student in 1982. Kristy, as her friends and family call her, was a bright, articulate student studying business. While not attending classes, she enjoyed her passion for painting. She started a job as a custodian at the Lewiston Civic theatre to get to know more community members. Kristy’s step-sister, 19-year-old Brandy Miller, also worked at the theater with Kristy. Just like Kristy, Brandy was artistically inclined. On September 12, 1982, Kristina left a note for her boyfriend, who would be coming over later to hang out with them, and she didn’t want him to be confused when Kristy and Brandy were not home. The two needed to go to the store to pick up a few snacks for the night. The note assured him they would be home soon. Plans changed as Kristy’s boyfriend got home from work and fell asleep instead of going to hang out with Kristy. The following morning, he headed to Kristy’s apartment and found no one home. He did see the note from the night before on the table. Not thinking much of it, he went on his way. However, when the day came and went, the following day, having still not heard from her, he went to the Lewiston theatre and learned that she had failed to show up for work. In fact, none of Kristy’s friends had seen her at all. Kristy was very responsible, and her friends knew something was wrong. The boyfriend went to the police to file a missing person report for Kristy and Brandy.

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Sources:

https://vimeo.com/51442715:Confluence

https://lmtribune.com/northwest/fbi-keeps-file-open-on-kristin-david-case/article_ec559279-df44-5002-a29f-4d2c18bb978c.html

https://lmtribune.com/northwest/fbi-keeps-file-open-on-kristin-david-case/article_ec559279-df44-5002-a29f-4d2c18bb978c.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Missing_and_Exploited_Children

https://klewtv.com/news/local/a-look-into-the-suspect-in-christina-white-disappearance

Canada's Youngest Serial Killer: Cody Legebokoff Day 4 The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

 Cody Legebokoff was born on January 21, 1990. He was raised in Fort St. James, a district

municipality characterized by severe, snowy winters and short summers on the southeastern shore of Stuart Lake in British Columbia. Cody grew up hunting for grouse and fishing for trout with his family, with whom he had a close relationship. Cody was into country music and dirt biking. He played minor hockey and soccer and competed on school downhill skiing and snowboarding teams. When he graduated from Fort St. James Secondary School in 2008, Cody spent a brief time living in Lethbridge, Alberta, before moving back to British Columbia and settling in Prince George, about 100 miles southeast of Fort St. James, working as a mechanic for a Ford dealership. Cody is presented as a “perfectly normal” young man, described by family and friends as popular, friendly, sociable, and kind-hearted, showing no propensity for violence. For these reasons, the residents of Fort St. James were left shocked and in disbelief when, after a routine traffic stop in November 2010, Cody was found to have committed a brutal murder. The discovery of this murder was just the start and would eventually lead to Cody Legebokoff being named one of Canada’s youngest serial killers.

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Sources:

“Fort St. James” - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_St._James

“Cody Legebokoff” - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cody_Legebokoff

“Cody Legebokoff: Canada’s Youngest Serial Killer” - Crime Traveller

https://www.crimetraveller.org/2016/08/cody-legebokoff-canadas-youngest-serial-killer/

“Who is Cody Alan Legebokoff?” - Global News https://globalnews.ca/news/167103/who-is-

cody-alan-legebokoff/

“Loren Leslie Murder: Where is Cody Legebokoff Now?” - The Cinemaholic

https://thecinemaholic.com/loren-leslie-murder-where-is-cody-legebokoff-now/

“Cody Alan Legebokoff” - Murderpedia https://murderpedia.org/male.L/l/legebokoff-cody.htm

“Cody Legebokoff had blood on face, legs when arrested, Crown says” - CBC News

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/cody-legebokoff-had-blood-on-face-legs-

when-arrested-crown-says-1.2663413

“Autopsy reveals extensive injuries, Legebokoff trial hears” - Prince George Citizen

https://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/legebokoff-trial-archive/autopsy-reveals-extensive-injuries-

legebokoff-trial-hears-3712443

“Legebokoff admits to playing a role in Stuchenko murder” - Prince George Free Press

http://www.pgfreepress.com/legebokoff-admits-to-playing-a-role-in-stuchenko-murder/

“Body found in gravel pit is missing mother of six” - CTV News https://bc.ctvnews.ca/body-

found-in-gravel-pit-is-missing-mother-of-six-1.449385

“For family of missing and murdered woman, violence has historical roots” - Alaska Highway

News https://www.alaskahighwaynews.ca/bc-news/for-family-of-missing-and-murdered-woman-

violence-has-historical-roots-3494237

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killer/article557840/

“‘A slap in the face’: serial killer moved to medium security” - National News

https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/a-slap-in-the-face-serial-killer-moved-to-medium-

security/

“Woman tells murder trial of relationship with Legebokoff” - Times Colonist

https://www.timescolonist.com/bc-news/woman-tells-murder-trial-of-relationship-with-legebokoff-

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“Canada’s Youngest Serial Killer” - That Chapter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoEGNJxiN8U

Killer Uncle Joe: Rima Traxler, Kara Rudd & Chila Silvernails Day 3 The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

 It is day 3, and we are headed to Longview, Washington. It is a quiet, safe town located about 50 miles outside Portland, Oregon. It is May 15, 1985, when Danelle Traxler is waiting for her young daughter, 8-year-old Rima, to arrive home from school after her walk home. Her mother had a strange feeling knowing that Rima was never one to be late. Danelle went outside and traveled the same path Rima would have, hoping to run into her, but she did not see her. Danelle went home and called the police to report her 8-year-old missing. 

Danelle informs officers what Rima was wearing that day and emphasizes that Rima would never talk to strangers, much less get into a car with one. In fact, Rima had a password that her family would use in an emergency. Anyone asking Rima to get in the car with them-family or even friends-- would have to have the family password. No matter who it was, they had to have the password to let Rima know it was ok.  It was as if Rima had simply disappeared. Sadly, this was not the first time a young girl disappeared from the area; even worse, it would not be the last. 

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Sources:

Douglas, John; Olshaker, Mark (2019). The Killer Across the Table: Unlocking the Secrets of Serial Killers and Predators with the FBI's Original Mindhunter

https://tdn.com/news/local/child-killer-joseph-kondro-dies-at-state-prison/article_23c1a25c-964d-11e1-94e7-001a4bcf887a.html

https://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Sociopath-amazed-he-s-not-on-death-row-1061735.php

https://tdn.com/news/local/california-author-examines-life-of-joseph-kondro/article_6ff0bc74-8aaa-11e2-9106-0019bb2963f4.html

https://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Part-6-In-their-own-words-The-twisted-art-of-1107772.php

https://www.chronline.com/stories/cowlitz-county-detectives-say-40-year-old-cold-case-of-murdered-girl-still-open,289791

The Babes In The Woods Murders Day 2 The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

 On the 9th of October 1986, Karen Hadaway and Nicola Fellows returned home from school, running through the front doors of their respective homes, eager to get changed and play outside. Around 5 pm, the girls played with friends outside a neighbor's house. Shortly after this, the girls headed to Wild Park; despite knowing they were not allowed there, Nicola was told by her parents that the “boogeyman” lived there, hoping to scare her away from ever entering. Sadly, for unknown reasons, the girls entered the park that afternoon. The girls were spotted around 5:15 pm by a park policeman, playing on some trees, who warned them that they would hurt themselves. As the afternoon turned into evening, both families began to worry. 8 pm was their bedtime, and they both knew to be home by then, but there was no sign of either of them. 

Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas Day 2: Babe in the Woods

Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS     

All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams     

Written and researched by Kira Ackling

Sources:

SOURCES -  

“Russell Bishop (murderer)” - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Bishop_(murderer) 

“Babes in the Woods murders (Wild Park) - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babes_in_the_Wood_murders_(Wild_Park) 

“'I didn't top the girls': How brazen Russell Bishop greeted victim's father after police bailed him over Babes in the Wood murders... 32 years before he was eventually convicted” - Daily Mail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6859693/Father-tells-32-years-scapegoat-Babes-Wood-murders.html#v-4228966068257666593

“FACE OF A MONSTER Chilling pics shows Babes in the Wood killer Russell Bishop joining search for schoolgirls he brutally murdered” - The Sun https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7946214/cctv-footage-babes-wood-killer-joined-search-murdered-girls/

“'HE'S A MONSTER' Babes in the Wood murder victims’ mums blast ‘coward’ killer as he’s FINALLY convicted 32 years on” - The Sun https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7942926/wicked-paedo-russell-bishop-finally-found-guilty-of-babes-in-the-woods-murders-32-years-on/

“The Babes in the Wood murders and the killer who searched for his own victims” - Sussex Live https://www.sussexlive.co.uk/news/sussex-news/babes-wood-murders-killer-who-4511903

“Russell Bishop jailed for 1986 Babes in the Wood murders” - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46528206

“Babes in the Wood murders: How killer paedophile Russell Bishop was caught by DNA, and tried to accuse victim's father” - Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/babes-wood-murders-russell-bishop-guilty-dna-father-barrie-karen-hadaway-nicola-fellows-cruel-defence-a8630076.html

“Paedophile denies murdering nine-year-olds - but admits sexually assaulting seven-year-old then lying about it” - Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/russell-bishop-karen-hadaway-nicola-fellows-police-murder-killing-sussex-1986-a8648546.html

“'I didn't top the girls': How brazen Russell Bishop greeted victim's father after police bailed him over Babes in the Wood murders... 32 years before he was eventually convicted” - Daily Mail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6859693/Father-tells-32-years-scapegoat-Babes-Wood-murders.html

“Babes In The Wood victim's mum says 'angel' is now at peace after killer jailed” - The Mirror https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/babes-wood-victims-mum-says-20540807

“Martin Bashir 'may have lost' clothing of Babes in the Wood victim” - The Argus https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/19324553.martin-bashir-may-lost-clothing-babes-wood-victim/

“Nicola Fellows and Karen Hadaway” - True Crime Library https://www.truecrimelibrary.com/crimearticle/nicola-fellows-and-karen-hadaway/

“Man found guilty of 1986 Brighton 'babes in the wood' murders” - The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/10/man-found-guilty-of-1986-brighton-babes-in-the-wood-murders-karen-hadaway-nicola-fellows

“BBC Two - The Prosecutors, The Babes in the Woods murders” - BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0by3pfh

“Crimewatch UK October 1986” - Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0He7hgcZBXI 

“Russell Bishop trial: Father 'watched sex tape of daughter'” - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46362901 

“Russell Bishop trial: Girl's bodies 'seemed thrown together'” - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46063376 

“Russell Bishop trial: Dead girl 'not assaulted months earlier'” - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46101093 

“'Cowardly monster' Russell Bishop who killed girls in Babes in the Wood murders jailed” - The Mirror https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-russell-bishop-cowardly-monster-13717156 

“Ellesmere Port dad condemns Babes in the Woods killer over murder accusations” - Cheshire Live https://www.cheshire-live.co.uk/news/chester-cheshire-news/ellesmere-port-dad-condemns-babes-15537218 

‘Babes in the wood’ killer Russell Bishop dies of cancer

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/21/babes-in-the-wood-killer-russell-bishop-dies

https://www.studenthandouts.com/00/201602/babes-in-the-wood-long-story-poem.pdf

https://globalnews.ca/news/8621234/cold-case-babes-in-the-woods-identity-stanley-park-murder/#:~:text=Police%20said%20the%20children%20were%20brothers%20Derek%20and%20David%20D'Alton.&text=In%201953%2C%20their%20skeletal%20remains,Beaver%20Lake%20in%20Stanley%20Park.

Kiss and Kill Murder: Betty Williams Day 1 The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

 Our first nightmare before Christmas takes up back in time to 1961. It is March in Odessa, Texas, and while the state is known for being warm, the spring air is still crisp in the mornings. The William’s household is getting ready for the day.  

Mrs. Williams had made breakfast for her 17-year-old daughter Betty who is currently a senior at Odessa High School. Screaming her name from the small kitchen, Betty did not answer. Like most moms of teenagers, we are all too familiar with the oversleeping kid, so Mrs. Williams makes the walk down the hall to Betty’s room and knocks on the door, telling Betty her breakfast is getting cold and she is going to be late for school. When Betty doesn’t answer, she jiggles the door knob and realizes the door is locked. Mrs. Williams, perhaps out of fear or, more likely, anger, leaves the house through the front door to go around to the back of the house. Betty had an outside door in her bedroom, and well, Betty had been known to not always follow her parent's rules. As she opened the door, anger was now gone as she gazed upon a bed that had not yet been slept in during the night. Betty was missing.

Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas -Day 1: Kiss and Kill Murder: Betty Williams.

Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS     

All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams     

Sources:

https://www.nydailynews.com/true-crime-justice-story/ny-kiss-and-kill-murder-ghost-of-odessa-high-school-20221029-gnokrx6tozfchdkvuxgejbqdpm-story.html

https://www.cbs7.com/content/news/FIRST-ON-CBS7-Kiss-and-Kill-killer-has-died-504111961.html

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5156498/

https://medium.com/of-misdeeds-and-mysteries/killer-claims-girl-begged-him-to-shoot-her-6824335131b

https://showbizcorner.com/betty-williams-murder-update-john-mack-herring

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RCRRBO7JMNKF7?ASIN=097775586X

193. Spiderman of Denver: Theodore Coneys

 It is October 17, 1941, and 73-year-old Phillip failed to answer his front door. Since his wife was in the hospital, the neighbors took turns having him over for dinner so he would not be all alone. This evening Phillip was excepted to come to the neighbor's house for food, and he didn’t show up. Not sure why the neighbor went to Philip’s house and knocked on the door, but no one answered. Worried something was wrong, she gathered a few more neighbors and went back to the house. After checking all the doors and windows, they located a window that was unlocked and a neighbor crawled into the window. The worst fears became a reality when the young woman started screaming about what she had discovered inside. 

Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Spiderman of Denver: Theodore Coneys’

Listener discretion is by our buddy @octoberpodVHS       

All music is by our EP @wetalkofdreams     

Promo is by our friend @santamaybe

Check out his fabulous and clever podcast ‘Santa Maybe A Criminal’

Sources: 

https://history.denverlibrary.org/news/tale-denver-spider-man

https://www.outtherecolorado.com/features/the-dark-creepy-tale-of-denvers-spider-man-reader-discretion-advised/article_926dccd6-7b94-11eb-b5f1-53f4e77bca3e.html

https://murderpedia.org/male.C/c/coneys-theodore.htm

https://www.ranker.com/list/theodore-coneys-facts/jacob-shelton

https://web.archive.org/web/20040213070643/http://www.prisonmuseum.org/spider.htm

https://www.audible.com/pd/15-Theodore-Edward-Coneys-The-Denver-Spider-Man-Podcast/B08ZSZRYWP

https://www.reddit.com/r/CreepyWikipedia/comments/qgu95z/theodore_edward_coneys_a_murderer_who_squatted_in/

192. The Monster of Worcester: David McGreavy

 ****This is a brutal episode.  Listener discretion is advised ****

In April of 1973, on Friday the 13th, Elsie Ralph was at work, bartending at the Punch Bowl Tavern in the Rainbow Hill district of Worcester, England. 

At closing time, her husband came to pick her up and left their three young children at home with their lodger, David McGreavy.

Elsie, Dawn, Paul and Samantha

As the couple approached their home, they were met by police, informing them that they could not enter their home. Elsie panicked and begged to know why. The police officer gravely told them, “There’s been a murder.”  The police would not immediately share with the couple precisely who had been murdered or the details of the crime. Elsie became hysterical, and an ambulance medic gave her a sedative. 

Join Jen and Cam as we discuss 'The Monster of Worcester: David McGreavy'

David McGreavy

A big thank you to:

Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo

Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese at wetalkofdreams.com

Researched and written by Lauretta Allen

Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_McGreavy

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/david-mcgreavy-parole-babysitter-killed-three-children-impaled-bodies-railings-cleared-release-101026018.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-22623176

https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/david-mcgreavy-the-monster-of-worcester

https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-story-about-the-monster-of-worcester-david-mcgreavy-who-killed-3-children-d1eaea1bfc7c

https://murderpedia.org/male.M/m/mcgreavy-david.htm

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-48593232

http://www.murderuk.com/david-mcgreavy.html

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/killer-babysitters-chilling-answer-asked-16418799

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS9F4xfVtlU&t=6s

https://www.newspapers.com/image/829639153/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/290961364/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/785070134/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/117438584/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/260621567/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/768988675/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/865199055/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/81659656/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/117438584/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2331692/Monster-Worcester-took-family-home-sanity-Mother-children-murdered-impaled-fence-lodger-says-wont-peace-dies.html

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.2029614,-2.212273,14z

191. The Suitcase Killer: Steven Zelich

 We are headed to Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, a resort town in the Midwest. The summer tourist season is about to kick off. The popular destination is located on Geneva Lake and has been popular for years, with everyone from the elite to kids hitting up the water parks. On June 5, 2014, a call came into the Walworth County Sheriff's Department at about 3:20 pm. The dispatch informed them that laying on the side of Como Road, were two suitcases discovered by a local farmer. The farmer attempted to move them, but as he approached, the smell let him know that he needed to call the police. As police arrived on the scene, they located two suitcases, a black one with plenty of insect activity on it and a purple one. Police unzipped the black one and discovered the body of a female inside. Even though the body was badly decomposed, it was a female, and her body was intact. There was a ball gag in her mouth attached to her head by a strap. Around her neck, there was a rope with both of her hands behind her body. It would take a while to find out who was responsible but they would find him.

Join Jen and Cam on this episode of ‘Our True Crime Podcast’ as we discuss ‘The Suitcase Killer: Steven Zelich.’

As always, our listener discretion is by Edward October @octoberpodVHS    

Check him out, you will love him. Promise

All music is original by our executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreams         

He makes us sound good…and that is a chore.

Sources:

https://www.wisn.com/article/court-ex-cop-can-try-to-rescind-guilty-plea-in-suitcase-death/34797666

https://nypost.com/tag/steven-zelich/

https://fox6now.com/2014/06/30/no-doubt-it-was-her-friends-family-of-jenny-gamez-were-just-waiting-on-dental-records-to-prove-it/

https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/southwest/news/west-allis/2020/12/01/ex-west-allis-cop-convicted-murder-can-try-rescind-guilty-plea/6469784002/

https://kcby.com/news/local/missing-oregon-womans-body-found-in-suitcase-in-wisconsin-11-13-2015-234817734

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627062913/http://abc7chicago.com/news/man-arrested-in-connection-with-wi-suitcase-bodies-case/140271/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-wisconsin-cop-charged-in-suitcase-murders/

https://fox6now.com/2017/10/13/steven-zelich-sentenced-to-10-years-for-hiding-bodies-of-women-in-suitcases/

https://thecinemaholic.com/laura-simonson-and-jenny-gamez-murders-where-is-steven-zelich-now/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/30/how-mrhandcuffs-ended-up-with-two-corpses-in-suitcases

https://heavy.com/news/2014/06/steven-zelich-laura-simonson-murder-bondage-suitcases/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/03/police-murder-women-suitcases/12158085/

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2017/02/03/ex-cop-pleads-guilty-2nd-murder-suitcase-bodies-killings/97459438/

190. A Serial Killer Walked In: The Death of Mary Michelle Fleming

 On July 25th, 1980, a couple looked out the window and saw a   young woman running toward their apartment. She had long blond hair, and she was covered in blood. She was also naked from the waist down with her bikini top pulled over her breasts.  The man says to his wife, “If she’s running like that, somebody’s chasing her.” As the girl knocked on the door, Robert swung it open. “Help me,” she muttered and then collapsed onto to the porch. The couple called 911, and Robert covered her up with a sheet.

Police and rescue showed up within minutes. The ambulance whisked the girl off to the hospital while police followed the blood trail across the road to the back door of the apartment on Yale. They had found the crime scene and had identified the victim as Mary Michelle “Mickey” Fleming.

With witnesses coming forward, police are able to identify the killer as Anthony Joe LaRette. 

After he was sentenced, Tony would start confessing to 30 other murders.

Mary Michelle Fleming

Join Jen and Cam as we discuss A Serial Killer Walked In: The Death of Mary Michelle Fleming

A big thank you to our team:

Anthony Joe LaRette

Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo

Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese at wetalkofdreams.com

Researched and written by Lauretta Allen

Sources:

https://www.amazon.com/She-Had-No-Enemies-Memoir/dp/143823144X

https://mocatholic.org/sites/missouricc/files/uploads/documents/october_2011.pdf

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4568048/characters/nm12371050

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_LaRette#:~:text=Anthony%20Joe%20LaRette%20Jr.

https://law.justia.com/cases/missouri/supreme-court/1983/63569-0.html

https://murderpedia.org/male.L/l1/larette-anthony-joe.htm

https://apnews.com/article/7fc0301036657b473d79f51fba165299

https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1995/12/03/serial-killer-confided-in-detective/

https://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2015/04/12/serial-killer-anthony-joe-larette/

https://www.scribd.com/podcast/418765688/THE-GIRL-THAT-HAD-NO-ENEMIES-AND-THE-MAN-WHO-HATED-WOMEN-De-Anthony-J-LaRette-Jr-had-been-on-a-ten-year-long-path-of-violence-murder-and-rape-E

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B091SLBS9Y/ref=atv_dp_season_select_s11

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/37953386/tracey-millers-murderer-on-death-row/

https://mocatholic.org/sites/missouricc/files/uploads/documents/october_2011.pdf

https://www.newspapers.com/image/678809304/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139893605/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/805177729/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139645751/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139634091/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139629509/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139645380/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139632903/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/424111020/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/696569686/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139909159/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139541441/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/424165919/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139927803/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139921847/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139681494/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139679015/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139904186/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139680608/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139908454/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/424156210/?terms=Anthony%20Larette&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/318998087/?terms=%22Helen%20Alderson%20Hall%22%20murdered&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/334935129/?terms=%22Helen%20Alderson%20Hall%22%20murdered&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/318996224/?terms=%22Helen%20Alderson%20Hall%22%20murdered&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/640042208/?terms=Jeanette%20%22Mickey%22%20Wade%20murdered&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/640042464/?terms=Jeanette%20%22Mickey%22%20Wade%20murdered&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/640036281/?terms=Jeanette%20%22Mickey%22%20Wade%20murdered&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/326381803/?terms=%22Betty%20H.%20Brunton%22%20murdered&match=1

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Anthony_LaRette

https://www.newspapers.com/image/677609990/?terms=%22Beverly%20Wortmann%22%20murdered&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/683698259/?terms=%22Beverly%20Wortmann%22%20murdered&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/424050715/?terms=%22Tracey%20Gladys%20Miller%22&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/140205300/?terms=%22Tracey%20Gladys%20Miller%22&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/424751508/?terms=%22Tracey%20Gladys%20Miller%22&match=1

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Marathon,+FL+33050/@24.726026,-81.8370139,8z/data=!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x88d0dc33cb6c387b:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/63297921/mary-michele-fleming/photo

https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/us/mo/st.-louis/KSTL/date/1980-7-25

https://www.newspapers.com/image/139314800/?clipping_id=37953092&fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjEzOTMxNDgwMCwiaWF0IjoxNjY3MTg0MDcyLCJleHAiOjE2NjcyNzA0NzJ9._fGLdYimeH7Y0xHflFt999eQS4D7spUN8beaJqCq-tM

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https://www.newspapers.com/image/20039520/?terms=%22Beverly%20Wortmann%22&match=1

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http://www.umsl.edu/~phillipsm/dp/MISCARRIAGES%20OF%20JUSTICE.html

189. Sins of the Mother: Diane Downs

 It was Thursday, May 19, 1983, at 10:48 pm when a red Nissan pulled up to the  McKenzie-Willamette Hospital emergency room drop-off door honking the horn repeatedly. A blonde woman hops out of the car, screaming for help, and points to her car. Someone shot my kids, she yelled. Nurses Rose Martin and Shelby Day ran to the car and were momentarily stunned, noticing all the blood inside the vehicle. Inside there were three small children, one in the front seat and two in the backseat. When confronted with what was in front of them, hospital staff were called to come into the ER to help assist.  Dr. John Mackey, the physician in charge, called the hospital’s number one surgeon Dr. Fred Whilhite came back to work because it was bad, it was very bad. Chest wounds to children and the conditions were grave. The girl in the front seat seemed to be already gone, but the ER staff tried desperately to bring her back to life, but it was too late; she would be pronounced dead in the ER. While the two in the backseat were still alive, they were struggling to breathe. The staff continued to try to save the other two children. They were not sure if they could be saved; with the gunshot wounds, each had severe loss of blood. To try to make breathing better for them, each was given a tracheotomy.  So far, what they were doing was working; the children were alive and seemed to be stable. What was more important was why would anyone do this and, more importantly, who? 

Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled “Sins of the Mother: Diane Downs.”

Listener Discretion is courtesy of @octoberpodVHS

EP/Music is by @wetalkofdreams

Sources: 

https://www.amazon.com/Small-Sacrifices-Story-Passion-Murder/dp/0451166604

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsMXTsU4eqE (Oprah Episode) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QJ0roe2xSM (20/20)

https://www.insideedition.com/true-story-diane-downs-how-mother-shot-her-3-kids-her-lover-51520

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/famous/downs/index_1.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1984/06/12/the-mother-38/13b24fdf-7294-4623-ad2d-0665435ceed4/

http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/11/09/diane-downs-latest-parole-hearing-is-next-month/

https://web.archive.org/web/20081206005041/http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_120208_news_diane_downs_parole.2513dd69.html

https://murderpedia.org/female.D/d/downs-diane.htm

http://www.dianedowns.com/

https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-who-hid-convicted-child-killer-diane-downs-after-her-prison-escape-regrets-decision-i-shouldve-turned-her-in

https://www.distractify.com/p/diane-downs-now

https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2020/04/notorious-convicted-child-killer-diane-downs-believes-coronavirus-swept-through-her-prison-compares-it-to-classic-gothic-horror-story.html

https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/diane-downs-52772.php

188.The Missing Women of Yonne

 About two hours from Paris, the body of 23-year-old Sylviane Lesage was found in a pasture. The case fell into the hands of Constable Christian Jambert.  He was considered an outstanding policeman and a dogged investigator for the National Gendarmerie. 

Sylviane Lasage

Christian Jambert

Constable Jambert began hearing stories of girls that had gone missing in and around Auxerre in the Department of Yonne, just up the road from Rouvray. But they weren’t just any girls. They were teenagers and students, children of the DDASS or Dahs. The missing girls were either foster children who were given up at birth or children who lived in a home for the disabled. They either had no immediate biological family, or their families could not care for them.

Besides the school, the girls had one thing in common. Bus driver Emile Louis.

Emile Louis

Join Jen & Cam as they discuss The Missing Women of Yonne.

P.S. Please excuse Jen's French pronunciations. 

A big thank you to our team:

Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo

Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese at wetalkofdreams.com

Researched and written by Lauretta Allen

Also, a HUGE shout out to Julian the Frenchman on YouTube. He helped a heck of a lot.

Sources:

https://www.newspapers.com/image/752433788/?terms=Emile%20Louis%20Yonne&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/753122933/?terms=Emile%20Louis%20Yonne&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/469217621/?terms=%22Emile%20Louis%22%20Yonne&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/496382773/?terms=%22Emile%20Louis%22%20Yonne&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/260712037/?terms=%22Emile%20Louis%22%20Auxerre&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/259470223/?terms=%22Emile%20Louis%22%20Auxerre&match=1

https://www-radiofrance-fr.translate.goog/franceinter/podcasts/affaires-sensibles/emile-louis-les-disparues-de-l-yonne-5803245?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89mile_Louis

https://murderpedia.org/male.L/l/louis-emile.htm

https://www.francethisway.com/top10lists/frenchcriminals/emilelouis.php

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/%C3%89mile_Louis

https://gettotext.com/emile-louis-the-butcher-of-yonne-disconcerting-interview-with-his-daughter-it-weighs-very-heavy/

https://www.sudouest.fr/archives/emile-louis-et-les-disparues-de-l-yonne-le-parcours-d-un-tueur-en-serie-3617265.php

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-24605535

https://www.humanite.fr/societe/cold-cases-enquetes-relancees/cold-cases-4-emile-louis-un-tueur-tapi-dans-l-ombre-du-mepris-social-759562

https://www.mariefrance.fr/actualite/disparues-de-lyonne-fille-demile-louis-decidee-a-proteger-enfants-denonce-atrocites-651691.html#item=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx1ZkIeFVwI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovWHlvdX1mw

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Jambert

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/apr/03/france.jonhenley

https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/bourgogne-franche-comte/yonne/auxerre/retour-sur-le-mysterieux-suicide-du-gendarme-jambert-l-enqueteur-de-l-affaire-des-disparues-de-l-yonne-2019136.html

https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1051/978-2-7598-0900-4.c027/html?lang=en

https://minnjil.org/2016/03/06/stopping-the-countdown-on-crime-punishment-and-guilt-by-abolishing-statute-of-limitations/#:~:text=In%20France%2C%20although%20the%20statute,of%20the%20period%20of%20the

https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2017-03-21/france-statute-of-limitations-extended-for-criminal-offenses/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_(French_law)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/dec/16/jonhenley

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auxerre

https://www.ot-auxerre.com/

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Auxerre,+France/@47.8164545,3.2819237,10z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x47ee4f30b735afe1:0x2ee6537abaa22791!8m2!3d47.798202!4d3.573781

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/dec/31/stuartjeffries.theobserver

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direction_d%C3%A9partementale_des_Affaires_sanitaires_et_sociales

https://www-leparisien-fr.translate.goog/faits-divers/deux-autres-cadavres-dans-le-sillage-d-emile-louis-27-02-2002-2002853709.php?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

https://france3--regions-francetvinfo-fr.translate.goog/bourgogne-franche-comte/yonne/auxerre/retour-sur-le-mysterieux-suicide-du-gendarme-jambert-l-enqueteur-de-l-affaire-des-disparues-de-l-yonne-2019136.html?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/dec/31/stuartjeffries.theobserver

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gendarmerie_nationale_(France)

https://plateformejonas.fr/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/10.13.1.Le_Gendarme_Christian_JAMBERT%E2%80%93heros_oublie..pdf

https://criminels--yonne-kazeo-com.translate.goog/l-affaire-de-l-apajh-a121767996?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

https://www-lexpress-fr.translate.goog/actualite/societe/justice/l-homme-qui-fait-peur-a-la-justice_488151.html?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

https://france3--regions-francetvinfo-fr.translate.goog/bourgogne-franche-comte/yonne/auxerre/lanceur-alerte-pierre-monnoir-simple-citoyen-au-coeur-affaire-disparues-yonne-1798474.html?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

https://www-leparisien-fr.translate.goog/faits-divers/quatre-squelettes-de-jeunes-adultes-decouverts-au-bord-de-l-yonne-08-06-2017-7030755.php?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

http://thinesclaude.wifeo.com/affaire-emile-louis.php

https://medium.com/@yasminscherrer/more-than-just-runaways-what-happened-to-the-seven-women-who-disappeared-in-yonne-f77c123cf570

https://www-liberation-fr.translate.goog/societe/2004/11/18/emile-louis-jacqueline-a-ete-tuee-par-une-bestiole_499817/?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=1733809196819212&paipv=0&eav=Afauu4D3m43c6IXDDh4xQBc40aaIzHJfLnywdJFGR7lcYc02xgUGVGFeHmTK6f_EWnI&_rdr

https://www.lemague.net/dyn/spip.php?article1561

https://www-liberation-fr.translate.goog/evenement/2001/02/10/un-sinistre-pavillon-a-appoigny_354184/?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

https://isgp-studies.com/elite-child-abuse-accusations-in-france

http://pipiou.over-blog.com/article-11317380.html

187. The Stranger in my Home: Carolina Killer

 It is December 23, 1999, in Easley, South Carolina, located right outside Greenville. People were getting ready to celebrate the holidays by cooking, cleaning, and wrapping goodies for loved ones. One of those getting ready to welcome family for a celebration was 87-year-old Martha Browning. Martha was always a hard worker and started working at the local mill at 12 years old. Like most grandmothers, Martha loved her family and fed them until they burst. As Martha was prepping for company, her 34-year-old granddaughter Deanna Tinsley came to town a bit early to help her out, and others would be arriving throughout the day. Her home was a place of love and welcomed anyone that wanted to come by. As the two of them were taking a moment to relax before the hustle began again, a man walked into the home and sat down in a chair.  The beginning of a real-life nightmare is about to start for these two ladies, but little did they know this was the last stop for a man responsible for the unthinkable. 

Join Jen and Cam on “Our True Crime Podcast’ as we discuss “The Stranger in my Home:Carolina Killer” 

LD by the fantastic Edward October from @octoberpodVHS                          

All music is by our EP Nico @wetalkofdream           

Sources:

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2019/12/23/20-years-ago-dallen-bounds-killed-4-greenville-sc-victims-then-shot-himself/2673293001/

https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/bounds-dallen.htm

https://dbpedia.org/page/Dallen_Bounds

https://skdb.fandom.com/wiki/BOUNDS_Dallen_Forrest

https://horrorhistory.net/2019/12/23/man-kills-ex-girlfriend-her-ex-husband-then-self/

https://thecinemaholic.com/how-did-dallen-bounds-die-where-is-casandra-laster-now/

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4502292

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60525/?name=Dallen_Bounds&pcat=bmd_death&qh=00efb62f88105f3e8178f4774f82d546

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B091HLPNCD/ref=atv_hm_hom_1_c_lZOsi7_2_4

186. Gatekeeper of Hell: Pazuzu Algarad

 Today's episode is a Listener Request!  Thanks to Christina Young for her request.

Down the road from Costco, past the Hobby Lobby, and the Chick-fil-A. stood a home on Knob Hill Drive that was in stark contrast to its surroundings. It was filthy and run-down, with a stench that assaulted people before they even reached the front porch. 

Once you made it to the porch, visitors were welcomed with a black door covered with symbols of a skull, crossbones, and an inverted cross. A community watch area sign warned that police were not welcome. “Evil Will Triumph” was written in bold white capital letters.

This was the home of Pazuzu Algarad. A self-proclaimed satanist who filed his teeth to sharp points and drank the blood of animals during the “dark moon.” He allowed—and even encouraged—people to engage in drug use, orgies, and murder, in his own home.

He's also was responsible for the deaths of Joshua Frederick Wetzler and Tommy Dean Welch, along with being convicted for accessory after the fact for the death of Joseph Emmrick Chandler.

Join Jen and Cam as they discuss The Gatekeeper of Hell: Pazuzu Algarad

Promo by OctoberpodVHS-  Check out his Halloween Potluck episode now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aluYQB0t3bY

A big thank you to our team:

Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo

Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese

wetalkofdreams.com

Researched and written by Lauretta Allen

Sources:

https://journalnow.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/an-evil-anniversary-the-pazuzu-algarad-case-broke-7-years-ago/collection_292ce4e8-2c4a-11ec-8ee9-4b12c64e7c9a.html#17

https://allthatsinteresting.com/pazuzu-algarad

https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/crime-history/who-is-suburban-satanist-pazuzu-algarad-and-what-is-he-known-for

https://en.celebrity.tn/what-happened-to-pazuzus-mother/

https://www.fox43.com/article/news/local/contests/creepy-human-remains-animal-sacrificing-take-a-look-inside-the-home-of-a-devil-worshiper/521-1ed95e6b-0dd6-4ca0-9e78-8a7ca0033f73

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07X3Y57J8/ref=atv_hm_hom_1_c_lZOsi7_2_4

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/645993345/?terms=Pazuzu%20Algarad&match=1

https://journalnow.com/late-satanists-girlfriend-sentenced-for-killing-man-found-buried-in-clemmons-yard-updated/article_812fcf54-1f11-5738-8fff-89aa6c8ac40b.html

http://www.missingin.org/reg2838/tommy_dean_welch.htm

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/341580558/?terms=Pazuzu%20Algarad&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/341478194/?terms=Pazuzu%20Algarad&match=1

https://mooresvilletribune.com/ex-girlfriend-victim-in-alleged-satanic-killing-was-good-father/article_fcb8431e-e989-58e8-ae20-c0fb27042eab.html

https://www.salisburypost.com/tag/pazuzu/

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/185442921/joshua-fredrick-wetzler

https://greensboro.com/families-share-memories-of-two-men-who-disappeared-5-years-ago/article_1b2a9a19-f7a5-5520-b910-e7223061f2ce.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clemmons,_North_Carolina

https://journalnow.com/two-men-charged-in-death-of-man-found-at-yadkin-park/article_b1655342-5460-56b1-bdd4-e80c2dd44eac.html

https://www.google.com/maps/place/2749+Knob+Hill+Dr,+Clemmons,+NC+27012/@36.0295369,-80.4209053,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x8853b9e1f45524bb:0x7f008cd99669fe14!8m2!3d36.0485998!4d-80.3827625

https://myfox8.com/news/the-meaning-behind-the-words-in-devil-worshipers-clemmons-home/

https://wfhszephyr.com/4041/features/too-close-to-home-pazuzu-algarad-clemmons/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV0QELg2zKc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEswJCDtFk4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqiSaBOK-YE&t=1s

https://journalnow.com/local-briefs---clemmons-man-found-shot-to-death-at-yadkin-park/article_f7fd2520-3be5-5b62-908b-45c2d6c4c968.html

https://www.earnthenecklace.com/amber-burch-wiki-pazuzu-algarads-girlfriend-where-is-she-now/

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/winstonsalem/name/joseph-chandler-obituary?id=24658135

https://myfox8.com/news/couple-accused-of-burying-two-people-in-yard-were-living-off-taxpayer-dollars/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7424285/Former-friend-satanist-buried-victims-backyard-tells-descent-darkness.html

https://journalnow.com/gallery/news/timeline-the-pazuzu-algarad-case/collection_9f570e40-2f37-5495-9a54-75c4bcd76539.html#17

https://greensboro.com/algarad-practiced-animal-sacrifice-as-part-of-religion/article_0583082e-36a7-54f4-b72e-6c5577ce752f.html

https://marketresearchtelecast.com/pazuzu-algarad-case/245320/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksg0RGrbP8U&t=602s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIuu00tUiBM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazuzu_Algarad

185. Children of Thunder: Cult of Killers

 We are headed to a small town named Woodacre which is located right outside of San Francisco, California. It is Marin County which is beautiful if you have never been there, truly postcard pretty. The town is a small community where the center of the action is a bar named The Paper Mill Saloon where the locals meet to catch up and unwind. Bartender Jennifer Villarin worked hard to make all the patrons welcome.  It was August 2nd, 2000 and Jim had brought Jenny dinner and Jenny closed up the bar around 11 pm. The two made their way home. It was right around 5 am when the neighborhood heard gunshots ring out. The police were called to the residence and arrived on the scene to discover two people had been shot and killed. The studio apartment was located behind a house, meaning that the killer had to know that an apartment was located. Jim Gamble's body was on the ground next to the bed as if he got out of bed when he was shot. Jenny was in bed. Both had no clothes on. The only evidence that they found was 9 mm-caliber gunshot shells which they believe came from a semi-automatic pistol. Two were used for Jenny and four were used for Jim.  The community was in shock as no one could imagine killing this much loved couple. Before all is said and done, there would be five victims and a bizarre tale of worship, fraud and murder. 

Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled “Children of Thunder: Cult Killers.”

Listener discretion is by our bestie @octoberpodVHS

All music is done by our other bestie and executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreams

Promo this week is by our friends at TSFU podcast. @https://tsfuthepodcast.com

Sources:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/a-nude-model-five-bodies-and-the-mormon-assassination-plot-attempt-732255.html

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/aug/11/news/mn-2726

https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Justin-Helzer-hangs-himself-in-prison-4436354.php

https://people.com/crime/helzer-brothers-stockbroker-turned-cult-killer-people-magazine-investigates/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/guitarists-daughter-linked-to-plot/

https://www.karisable.com/crhelzer.htm

https://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/helzer-brothers.htm

http://serialkillersink.net/skistore/glenn-helzer-children-of-thunder-cult-handwritten-letter-and-envelope-rare.html?set_language=en-US

https://www.mercurynews.com/2010/01/22/justin-helzer-attempts-death-row-suicide-by-jamming-pens-in-his-eyes/

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2010/02/05/justin-helzer-back-in-prison-after-suicide-try/

https://www.businessinsider.com/nancy-mullane-interviewed-justin-helzer-on-death-row-2014-4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvin_Bishop

https://web.archive.org/web/20100105214642/http://ptreyeslight.com/stories/aug07_03/selina_bishop.html

https://archive.org/details/falseprophetcons00boot

184. Bellevue Murders: The Wilson Family

 On January 4th, 1997, two eight-year-old boys were playing in the park when they came upon what they thought was a pile of clothing. When they realized it was a body, they ran to tell their parents, who immediately called the police

After identifying the body as twenty-year-old Kim Wilson, police go to the Wilson residence to notify her family. When Detective Gomes arrived at the house, he saw cars in the driveway and all the Christmas lights twinkling, but no one answered the door. Walking around the house, he noticed the sliding door was ajar. Detective Gomes goes in prepared for a robbery; he is shocked to find the rest of Kim's family was killed in a brutal attack.

Join Jen and Cam as we discuss the Bellevue Murders: The Wilson Family.

Promo by Missing Persons Podcast

A big thank you to our team:

Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo

Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese

wetalkofdreams.com

Researched and written by Lauretta Allen

Sources:

https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19970108&slug=2517720

https://www.swordandscale.com/the-wilson-family-murders/

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.true-crime/c/EcUronujstY?pli=1

http://www.crimemagazine.com/gothic-murders-0

https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/video/the-real-story-with-maria-elena-salinas-investigation-discovery/a-parents-nightmare

https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19970116&slug=2519043

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/juvenile-life-without-parole/

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/805503046/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/201862385/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/503547838/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/201861224/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/740517637/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/805533107/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/740101339/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/805222823/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=2

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/574854316/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/822296542/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/805512129/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/822255066/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/575654420/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/584672634/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/425569467/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/805560704/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/771065162/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/575656714/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=3

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/740447574/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/805229103/?terms=David%20Anderson%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/740114184/?terms=David%20Anderson%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/805533107/?terms=David%20Anderson%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/584672634/?terms=David%20Anderson%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/11775411/?terms=David%20Anderson%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/817677653/?terms=David%20Anderson%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/336362695/?terms=David%20Anderson%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/575658173/?terms=David%20Anderson%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/818135198/?terms=David%20Anderson%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/805499956/?terms=David%20Anderson%20Baranyi&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/575658173/?terms=Rosalie%20Wilson&match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/805502685/?terms=Rosalie%20Wilson&match=1

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