Wednesday, August 24, 2022

179. Fighting for Katie Palmer: An Interview with John Palmer

 Earlier this month, Cam and Jen sat down with John Palmer and discussed the tragic accident that took his wife Katie's life. 

​April 21st, 2020, in Denison, Texas, situated on the border of Oklahoma. Thirty-eight-year-old Katie Palmer decided to take an early morning walk with her husband, John Palmer,   hoping to see the nesting spot for a bird known as a killdeer.

As the couple was returning home, they walked along Glenwood Drive at 7:45 A.M, on the left-hand side, facing the traffic, as pedestrians are supposed to do in Texas. Glenwood Drive also did not have dividing paint lines; it’s just an open road where drivers know to stay on their side. It’s wide, it’s flat, and there is nothing on it to hinder a person’s view. The sightline is over 600 feet, and the maximum speed limit is 30 miles per hour.

​About 1/5th of a mile from their home, a Ford F-250 pickup truck crossed from the right-hand side of the road to the left-hand side of the road and struck Katie and John as they were walking. The vehicle struck Katie and Josh with such force that it knocked them out of their shoes. Katie landed 75 feet away, and John landed 70 feet away. For a little context, 75 feet is equivalent to the height of a six to seven-story building.  Katie wouldn't survive.

The driver of the truck, a neighbor named Cory Foster, has a driving record filled with DUIs, speeding, and reckless driving, yet he was able to walk away from this scot-free. 

Everything about Katie's case has been mishandled. Trust us, it will get your blood boiling. 

Thank you to John Palmer for coming to the show. We know the road to justice is exhausting, but we will stand beside you in your journey and fight.

Please go to the following links for more information and updates on Katie's case.

Justice For Katie Palmer Facebook page.

Justice For Katie Palmer website

Justice For Katie Palmer on Twitter


If you would like to donate in Katie's name:

The Katie Palmer Project: 

Hagerman National Wildlife Reserve:

Monday, August 22, 2022

178. Hiding in Plain Sight: Henry Wallace

 As little kids, we are scared of monsters and things that go bump in the night.  We hear stories about big scary, hairy creatures that would get you if you weren’t being good. You had to always be aware of your surroundings and,  of course, beware stranger danger.  We grow up and imagine that bad guys are like the ones in the movies. But what if the monster was nothing like that, what if they were kind and helpful. What if they were your good friend? What if the monster was hiding in plain sight?

Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled "Hiding in Plain Sight: Henry Wallace."

Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS

Music/Ep @wetalkofdreams


Thursday, August 11, 2022

The Boys In Barking: Anthony, Gabriel, Daniel, & Jack

On September 20th, 2014, dog walker Barbara Denham entered the walled graveyard of St. Margaret of Antioch church in Barking, London. She saw a young man sitting up against the cemetery wall amidst the ruins of the old abbey. As Ms. Denham approached, the young man never reacted or indicated that he heard her or the collie. Hesitantly, she walked over and found that twenty-one-year-old Daniel Whitworth was dead. Ms. Denham immediately phoned the police saying, “I was the same woman that found the other body a few weeks ago. I found another young boy.”

Join Jen and Cam as they talk about how the murderous and lascivious behavior of Stephen Port would go unchecked by authorities. The investigation has been described as "One of the most widespread institutional failures in modern history" In fact, had it not been for the sisters of his last victim, Jack Taylor, he would have likely continued killing.

Thanks to the OTCP team Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese Researched and written by Lauretta Allen



Wednesday, August 10, 2022

176. Joseph Naso: His List of Ten

 Imagine you are a probation officer and you get a phone call that one of your offenders hasn’t checked in with you as of late. Since he is an elderly man in his late 70s, you hope he is ok. It is April 13, 2010, an officer goes to the home to check on him. The officer goes into the home and talks to the man. He then walks about the house to get a look around which is standard. It all looks ok. Located in the back of the home, the officer discovers a room. This room has a giant padlock on the door from the outside. Immediately sensing something is not right, he demands to get into each of the rooms. What authorities would find in the house is what nightmares are made of. It is a scene straight out of one of those haunted houses kids visit on Halloween night, but this was no haunted house, and no one --children or adults --should have to see what was inside. 

Join Jen and Cam on this episode of ‘Our True Crime Podcast’ entitled ‘Joseph Naso: His List of Ten.’

Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS………………………..

Music and EP is by @wetalkofdreams………………….


Tuesday, August 2, 2022

175. The Cannock Chase Murders

 ****Content Warning****

Cannock Chase is 26 square miles of deciduous and coniferous woodland, open heathland, and small lakes in the West Midlands of England.  It's a popular place to go hiking and mountain biking. As beautiful as Cannock Chase is, it has a bit of a dark past.

In the 1960s, children in the area were abducted, assaulted, and murdered; their bodies were discovered later in the dense foliage of Cannock Chase.  A human monster was on the loose.

Join Cam and Jen as we discuss The Cannock Chase Murders.

Thanks to the OTCP team

Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at

Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese

Researched and written by Lauretta Allen